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Glen Murie

1. Remember that you'll never meet any of the other people on that plane again in your life.

2. Don't fly with a 10 month old baby. Send your parents the tickets to fly to New York.

3. Children's Tylenol is supposed to work, but it sure didn't help my kids when they got their shots. I don't think it's legal to use Nyquil on them...

Janis

Hell if I know.

I'm flying next month with twins who will be 16 months old.

I'm terrified. If you get any good advice, pass it on!

HAHA

Jenny

Okay, I know this one...We flew with my daughter when she was baby..to Dallas! Give some infant Tylenol about half an hour before the flight, have a pacifier and bottle ready at all times. She should sleep through the trip, my daughter did. If she wakes up because of her ears, that's where the pacifier or bottle will come in handy. Although, some babies just can't be comforted on plane rides. But I am sure Peanut will do just fine..after all, you're a natural born flier...she is half you..maybe she'll love it! I hope that helps.

Puffin

Jenny nailed it...Her ears are the only thing that is going to bother her at this age. Sucking in the pacifer or the bottle should equalize it. But feeding her right before you get on the plane is an excellent idea. You might even want to make sure she is good and hungry before that feeding right before you get on the plane. and the tylenol should help too.

the only other option would be to wrapped her up really good and ship her UPS next day delivery....

Andy

Our little girl flew at 4 weeks, 3 months, 4 months, and just flew out again yesterday. The bottle suggestion is key - she'll want something to suck on at take-off and landing. They pressurize the cabin to about 5000 feet as soon as they close the doors, so keep an eye on the Peanut when they do that. I've heard of dosing with Benadryl/Tylenol, but we've never had to do that. Our babe hasn't had a problem flying yet. Not trying to brag, but I think some babies just aren't bothered by it. Supposedly the drone of the engines also helps to lull them (white noise). Putting her in the car seat is the SMARTEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO. We flew once without a seat for her (lap child) - that will NEVER happen again. She was actually fine - flew all the way from NYC to SF, but we were extremely uncomfortable and worn out when we got there. Good luck, and don't stress what others think if she IS that kid. You've been on plenty of flights, probably with lots of screaming kids. Think of it as sweet payback.

cooper

Metro, here is what has worked for us:

1) Always use the car seat, stoller combo in the airport and check the stroller part at the airplane door
2) I agree that baby Tylenol works if baby is fussy.
3) You have to take the baby out of the stroller at xray. It is a HUGE drag, especially if the baby is asleep. But you have to do it. I would check as much as possible and only carry on a diaper bag. You get the baby out, take apart the stroller/car seat combo (yes, they usually make you do this stupid thing), take off your shoes (yep, still stupid. they even make my 3 year old do this too)and one of you hold the baby and one deal with all the crap.
4) Change baby diaper just before boarding
5) Make sure you get on first when they let "passengers with small children" board. That way you can get situated without tons of people trying to get by.
6) I hope you got a seat for the baby, it is extra money but WORTH IT. If you do have a seat for the baby, keep her in her car seat until take off. If you don't, no worries, just pass her back and forth for "fresh arms." You may want to make sure you have an aisle and middle, in that case, so if you need to walk around with the baby you don't have to crawl over someone.
7) At take off, get her out and NURSE, NURSE, NURSE. It helps her ears and hopefully she will fall asleep.
8) Put her in the car seat and she will sleep a lot of the way. Hopefully.
9) Try to change diapers at your seat. The bathroom is just way too small and gross. Use the barf bag for dirty diapers.
10) Nurse when you are coming in for a landing too.
11) If the baby screams, she screams. I learned the hard way that the more freaked out I get, the more they scream. I actually had a woman with three teenage sons YELL at me on a plane once about my son (who was 2 at the time.) I find it very hard to believe that with three boys, she never had a bad plane trip. But, you know, some people just can't find it in their heart to understand or accept that they have been there too. Just ignore anyone like that. Most people are great.

Have a safe and fun trip and I hope this helps!

Terri

If she ends up being "one of those babies," don't stress too much. Glen is right on the money about never seeing the other passengers again. I was on a flight two weeks ago and there was a baby behind me who SCREAMED the ENTIRE time. The guy in front of me made a snide remark and I found myself snapping back at him. Screw the ones that don't have children - they too will probably be blessed some day as well. Good luck this weekend!

Kristie

Whew! I sure am glad to see that I'm not the only one who would drug my children so that they would sleep through the ride!!!

Tom N.

I think everyone's comments so far have been right on the money, and it sounds like you already know the most important part - nursing on the way up and down. Our baby girl flew at around 10 weeks of age, and then again around 6 1/2 months. At first we didn't want to take her on the first trip (to Chicago and San Francisco to see family), but our relatives with kids told us that it's easier to fly when they're 10 weeks old and just sit there, than when they're 10 months old (which we'll be doing in a few weeks) and want to walk all over the place. The only time our girl cried was in the descent to Boston, which is really long. We tried giving her a bottle instead of nursing, and the descent took so long that she got full and didn't want any more to drink, but we were still descending, so she cried. But other than that, she's been pretty calm and well-behaved on flights. Now that she's trying to walk, though, we'll see how she does on her next flight, in January.

When your Peanut is a bit older, it's good if you can get a bulkhead row, because that'll give you a bit of extra space both for the car seat, and to sit on the floor and play.

As far as changing diapers goes: I actually prefer the bathroom. Yes, it's extremely small, but there's more space over the baby. If the people in front of your seat are reclined, then the baby will be wedged in there, and trying to change her on one or more seat trays was less fun than using the bathroom changing table.

Cynical Mom

There are good odds that an 11 week old will sleep for several hours almost solid on a plane... something about the noise just knocks them out, even without baby tylenol. This also seems to work regardless of what they're sleeping overnight at home. I've flown with my son at 3, 6, 10, 16, 24 weeks and 6m, 9m, 12m (and that trip was by myself!). Up until the 6 month trip it was a breeze, he slept a ton and I just sat there with him on my lap. Then suddenly around 6 months he started to be a pain in the ass, but it got better by 9 months because he was eating solid foods and would spend half the flight nibbling on pieces of food I'd hand over.

He's 18m and we're going on a 4 hour flight on saturday... we just bought a portable dvd player and have high hopes for him zoning out on that instead of baby tylenol.

I don't get people who won't drug babies for plane flights when they would drug them for fevers. :-)

greg from daddytypes

The comments above, especially Cooper's, should get you a long way. The one thing I'd reiterate is getting a breast, bottle, or pacifier going as soon as they shut the door. That was the only time our flying 3-month old lost it--and boy, did she lose it. A flt attendant later clued us in, and we've had no problems since.

As for changing, you'll learn quick which planes are equipped with changing tables (777, some new 737s), but we've always gone to the back and asked to use a jump seat or a pad on the wider floor. It's a nice gesture to the neighbors.

Anyway, given the number of babies on planes this time of year, you don't have to keep your kid silent, just quieter than the others. It's like how you don't have to outrun the bear, just your jogging partner.

METRODAD

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!

We used ALL of your suggestions and they worked like a charm. The anticipation of the worst-case scenario was the most stressful aspect of the trip. But the Peanut slept like a charm during the entire flight. Woke up to unload in the diaper a few times but otherwise she was great. Not sure if it was the Infant Tylenol or the thimble of Scotch that we gave her (just kidding) but the Peanut handled the flight like a veteran.

Now we'll just have to wait for the return trip back to see whether we were the beneficiaries of beginner's luck or random chaos theory. I'll let you all know! But thanks again for all your help! Hope you all had a merry Christmas with your families!

Love,
MetroDad

Summit

Greeting. I have lost friends, some by death... others through sheer inability to cross the street.
I am from Scotland and learning to read in English, tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "Imitrex targets the blood vessels and the nerves which cause the migraine headaches."

Waiting for a reply :o, Summit.

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